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The Furnace Podcast
Episode 5: Abiding in Christ as a Lifelong Obsession
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Episode 5: Abiding in Christ as a Lifelong Obsession

Apart from Christ, nothing.

Jesus said it plainly: “Apart from me, you can do nothing.”

Not less. Not less effectively. Nothing.

That is the proposition at the heart of this episode—and it is either the most liberating sentence in the New Testament, or the most alarming one, depending on whether we are actually abiding in the vine or simply working very hard at looking like we are.

In Episode 5 of The Furnace Podcast, we bring the first four episodes together around John 15. We have talked about the Inner Room, the three intelligences of spirit, soul, and body, the interior senses, and the language of dreams. All of it was foundation. This episode is about what the foundation is for.

Fruitfulness is not a function of effort. It is a function of connection.

And abiding—real abiding, the interior, sustained, deepening kind—is worth spending the rest of your life learning.


This is Episode 5 of The Furnace Podcast. If you are new here, we recommend starting with Episode 1 and working through the series in order.


Also available: the Kingdom Architecture Podcast, our companion series exploring the invisible realms, angelic ministry, and the architecture of the heavens. Find it on Substack, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pandora Radio, and iHeartRadio.


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